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Reply #15: Dec 07, 2010 02:23 PM

Regardless if its ponzi scheme or not people still joins them thinking of a quick buck, if they hot burn they cry.

You cry the first time, but then you wake up and realise that they are all scams, then you accept the risk and either invest / gamble and accept the loss/afford the loss or you should not invest in these AT ALL.

People were fooled with geniusfunds, including me.  People were foolwed by nanocorp, panamoney, unitrade, and CHERRYSHARES, ALL HYIP are scams from the start.  Just because they pay for a while does not mean they are a criminal organization run by TOP criminals and will eventually run away.  Making the few investors at the top win, and the majority of the suckers below lose. 
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Reply #16: Dec 08, 2010 02:34 AM

You cry the first time, but then you wake up and realise that they are all scams, then you accept the risk and either invest / gamble and accept the loss/afford the loss or you should not invest in these AT ALL.

People were fooled with geniusfunds, including me.  People were foolwed by nanocorp, panamoney, unitrade, and CHERRYSHARES, ALL HYIP are scams from the start.  Just because they pay for a while does not mean they are a criminal organization run by TOP criminals and will eventually run away.  Making the few investors at the top win, and the majority of the suckers below lose. 

 rofl rofl rofl rofl atleast you learn!! others dont!! they think new bux sites will bring them their dream house
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Reply #17: Dec 08, 2010 01:05 PM

rofl rofl rofl rofl atleast you learn!! others dont!! they think new bux sites will bring them their dream house

lol well there is a specific "market" targeted by those bux sites which I don't really want to mention here as some people get offended quite easily Tongue  But anyhow, yeah I guess they get scammed 50 times but then a new one comes and THIS IS IT, it is the real one.   If people want stability they can go to neobux, at least that site might outlast all of them given its "sustainability" through whatever secrets they do big grin  If people want quick money, then they can join the other higher-risk sites when they start fresh, before they lower their bot rates and then leave.   But people continue and gamble and they want 10,000 refs!!!

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Reply #18: Dec 08, 2010 01:35 PM

I have always kept in mind that no PTC site will last for ever, and thats why I haven't invested crazy amounts of money. And thats why I'm not making crazy amounts coz I'm not taking that risk. I started from zero and never invested any money from my bank account, and now I'm running my PTC deals and that with money I've earned from PTCs to PayPal and AlertPay Smiley

So keep in mind that even NeoBux might be gone tomorrow  Cool
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Reply #19: Dec 08, 2010 01:47 PM

The issue is that people want LOTS of money for doing nothing. It goes right back to some Neandrethal who really didn't want to go on the mastodon hunt that day. He wanted to stay in his nice, safe cave and have someone else kill the mastodon and donate him some meat to feed his family for doing nothing. That feeling is still very much alive today. People want something for nothing. The easiest way to make a lot of money is to get the best education you can afford and WORK for your remaining days. As you make more money, go back to school continuously until you're out of your depth. I've got 2 master's degrees and a very-difficult-to-get trade license. Trust me, when I decide to work now, I get paid very, very well. I spent 30 years in the 9-5 workforce to build up my reputation and now I am a consulting engineer who only works on jobs I think will be fun. I have a substantial amount of money in the bank and I'm only 55. THAT'S how to get rich.

What am I doing here? Just for fun and to occupy some time. I've met some really great people around the GPT "industry" and I'm grateful for that.
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Reply #20: Dec 08, 2010 02:25 PM

I have always kept in mind that no PTC site will last for ever, and thats why I haven't invested crazy amounts of money. And thats why I'm not making crazy amounts coz I'm not taking that risk. I started from zero and never invested any money from my bank account, and now I'm running my PTC deals and that with money I've earned from PTCs to PayPal and AlertPay Smiley

So keep in mind that even NeoBux might be gone tomorrow  Cool

#1)  I used to invest out of pocket money for neobux, and my time was cut short due to finding out about HYIPs, I stopped little over 3 months from joining and had 9 more months to go for my golden.  I was in profit, and had I continued full time I would have recovered my investment, at that time RR activity was ok. Right now after being scammed by so many HYIPs and having learned about bux / PTC scams, now I do not invest with out of pocket money anymore !!!   I have always had residual income from surveys, for years, make a couple of hundreds a month and invest SOME of that on PTC, but no more hyip. big grin
Of the $400 I made last month online, I took maybe 50% of that to invest in neo + onbux, so this way if I lose, I still have profits and my bank account is the same.

#2 neobux being gone tomorrow no I don't think it will.  Its growth is steady, and with all the other bux scams closing down they get back the lost traffic, so while I know that neobux will not last forever, I don't believe it can be gone tomorrow, unless admin wants to scam, which is very unlikely, since he could have done so 2 1/2 years ago big grin

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Reply #21: Dec 08, 2010 02:41 PM

Well, I would like to add another point here.

Have you ever checked alexa of $1/click or $100/email kind of sites?

They get massive traffic and very huge member base.

What all members are thinking about that?  Roll Eyes

Will such $1/click pay them $10000 on reaching cashout?

If they already know it, why do they join and wait till they reach cashout?  no idea
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Reply #22: Dec 08, 2010 03:23 PM

#1)  I used to invest out of pocket money for neobux, and my time was cut short due to finding out about HYIPs, I stopped little over 3 months from joining and had 9 more months to go for my golden.  I was in profit, and had I continued full time I would have recovered my investment, at that time RR activity was ok. Right now after being scammed by so many HYIPs and having learned about bux / PTC scams, now I do not invest with out of pocket money anymore !!!   I have always had residual income from surveys, for years, make a couple of hundreds a month and invest SOME of that on PTC, but no more hyip. big grin
Of the $400 I made last month online, I took maybe 50% of that to invest in neo + onbux, so this way if I lose, I still have profits and my bank account is the same.

#2 neobux being gone tomorrow no I don't think it will.  Its growth is steady, and with all the other bux scams closing down they get back the lost traffic, so while I know that neobux will not last forever, I don't believe it can be gone tomorrow, unless admin wants to scam, which is very unlikely, since he could have done so 2 1/2 years ago big grin

Y'know, Darkstar, when I started this silliness 3 years ago I wanted to find out if you really could make money on the 'net for nothing. Much to my surprise it was. Not much, but some. I have never put in a nickel to fund my projects here in cyberspace. The first year I made about $60.00 (that's in my PP or AP accounts). The second year that tripled to $180.00. The third year I was pulling out $300.00 per month ($3,600.00 per year). Now I'm in my fourth year and we'll see where it goes. As far as my wallet is concerned the 'net could implode and I would never have lost a penny.

Yes, I tried HYIP's once. I put in $4 and got out $3 before they crashed. Not a good idea losing 25% each time.
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Reply #23: Dec 08, 2010 05:24 PM

So this is why it is best to stay away from ponzi sites as much as possible  big grin

Survey sites have been existing for a very long time, for decades actually, some dating over 5-10 years online alone, yet I only found out about OTHER ones a bit late.  I would have made a lot of money had I joined them all when they started online.  I hate liars!  When the bloody hell are admins going to get their proverbial foot out their arse and admit that their site are GAMES and ponzi operations instead of lying through their arse that their refs are human, come on now, look at some of the HYIP admins now they are admitting openly that they are a game, once they realise that people don't give a shite anymore and want money.  Maybe other program admins should do the same too.  I'm looking to onbux now to get a bit of earnings back, although the avgs are dropping now.  Used to be above 2 for a lot of people now all you read in their forums are drops daily then some mod telling me it's my imagination, sorry but check their forum, the avg drop has started going down now !  NO PROBLEM, hey, I'm fine even with 1.3-.1.4, I mean it seems the more refs you get the lower your avg, and if you do the math + price increase, it means high ref count = less profit or little difference.  So I figured it's best to keep a low ref count, seems profits are "capped" everywhere.  I kinda figured out how things work now and how it is possible to profit with refs, and applying this strategy both in onbux and neo, with great success.  It is best to join several trusted PTC sites and rent maybe no more than 100-200 refs in each, than rent 1000 in ONE PTC..... Good strategy that can make good $$$.

Anyhow, for now I have neo and onbux, but my biggest earnings come from survey, all the other types of earning online,affiliation and selling crap is a bloody load of rubbish.  The only other possible way to earn big f***ing money online is porn, and that's not something I would want to get into (too much liability and no time big grin )

So until I see other clever ways to earn online, other than surveys and HONEST sites, I'll pass.  Nowadays looking for non ponzi scams and honest sites on the internet is like looking through a needle in a haystack!  big grin
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Reply #24: Dec 08, 2010 05:28 PM

The issue is that people want LOTS of money for doing nothing. It goes right back to some Neandrethal who really didn't want to go on the mastodon hunt that day. He wanted to stay in his nice, safe cave and have someone else kill the mastodon and donate him some meat to feed his family for doing nothing. That feeling is still very much alive today. People want something for nothing. The easiest way to make a lot of money is to get the best education you can afford and WORK for your remaining days. As you make more money, go back to school continuously until you're out of your depth. I've got 2 master's degrees and a very-difficult-to-get trade license. Trust me, when I decide to work now, I get paid very, very well. I spent 30 years in the 9-5 workforce to build up my reputation and now I am a consulting engineer who only works on jobs I think will be fun. I have a substantial amount of money in the bank and I'm only 55. THAT'S how to get rich.

What am I doing here? Just for fun and to occupy some time. I've met some really great people around the GPT "industry" and I'm grateful for that.

wow, now someone said the big true  big grin

People forget how it's hard to earn real money with no efforts. Ask to someone how difficult is become rich with no efforts (unless you are a big and smart scammer).

There are many people spending hours per day with twitter, facebook and others sites and don't earn one 1 cent. And they want to earn easy and fast money with no efforts and investments.

Sometimes I hate this kind of people and think they deserve being scammed.  Smiley

PTC is a program that don't require skills to earn money. Those that want to earn real money online will have to work hard and many hours per day and not 5 minuts per day clicking ads.

That's the difference between those that will be sucessfull in the life and the losers.  thumbs up
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Reply #25: Dec 08, 2010 05:35 PM

Well PTC does require SOME skill to some extent, to manage your bots.  Remember that an admin cannot sustain by putting everyone in loss so they give out half profitable and half non profitable bots, sometimes more or less in either direction, and they rely on the fact that the majority of people do not manage their accounts properly.  So if you have the skill and KNOW EVERYONE uses bots and can "adjust", you might get away with some profits.  big grin big grin big grin
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Reply #26: Dec 08, 2010 05:55 PM

I'm trying to focus on the way to really, really do well with your life. It's not here. After you make your first million or so THEN you can hang around here. You are not going to make a living wage in GPT. Period. Those that think otherwise can skip their classes in order to click and end up miserable failures in life. To make real money you have to WORK. To get the best work you need a good EDUCATION. I'm way older that 99% of you here. I've made it (in my opinion) by the very sweat of my brow. I can now relax and pick and choose the jobs I work on ... no more 9 - 5, no more boss. It's a great feeling, but I gave up a lot when I was younger to get to where I am now. So if you're 19 and figuring this area of expertise will pay your way through life .... a car, a house, savings, medical care, prescriptions, a new roof on your house, furniture, services such as cable and internet and so on good luck. All those idiots that "invested" (read gambled) their tuition on Genius Funds or some other HYIP got exactly what they deserved for their limited brain power. PTC is the same way. If Neobux closed tomorrow, I know a large number of people who have "invested" beyond their means, they will eventually end up ruined. You invest with a recognised bank or stock broker, you buy mutual funds, buy gold or silver but you do not bet the farm on GPT.

Hope I've helped at least one person.
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Reply #27: Dec 08, 2010 05:58 PM

Thank You Uncle "D"
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Reply #28: Dec 08, 2010 06:06 PM

Lol i know. Its ridiculous. This scamming also needs to stop. Waste of time both ways.
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Reply #29: Dec 08, 2010 06:39 PM

I'm trying to focus on the way to really, really do well with your life. It's not here. After you make your first million or so THEN you can hang around here. You are not going to make a living wage in GPT. Period. Those that think otherwise can skip their classes in order to click and end up miserable failures in life. To make real money you have to WORK. To get the best work you need a good EDUCATION. I'm way older that 99% of you here. I've made it (in my opinion) by the very sweat of my brow. I can now relax and pick and choose the jobs I work on ... no more 9 - 5, no more boss. It's a great feeling, but I gave up a lot when I was younger to get to where I am now. So if you're 19 and figuring this area of expertise will pay your way through life .... a car, a house, savings, medical care, prescriptions, a new roof on your house, furniture, services such as cable and internet and so on good luck. All those idiots that "invested" (read gambled) their tuition on Genius Funds or some other HYIP got exactly what they deserved for their limited brain power. PTC is the same way. If Neobux closed tomorrow, I know a large number of people who have "invested" beyond their means, they will eventually end up ruined. You invest with a recognised bank or stock broker, you buy mutual funds, buy gold or silver but you do not bet the farm on GPT.

Hope I've helped at least one person.

It's funny you bring up geniusfunds because I read horror stories and saw some ridiculous youtube crap videos showing many students who gambled their entire college money and some married couples who put their kids entire f***ing college funds and retirement funds in that big $400 million scam GENIUSFUNDS and INFINITIVA, how sad when they found out they lost their $250,000 investment.  Some of those big HYIPs attract very large investors.  Sites like geniusfunds and cherryshares and other big names have managed to last due to idiots large investors who put big 5 and 6 figure sums and compounded it.

Regarding other hyips yeah, people got what they deserved, but geniusfunds, they fooled everyone because genius-s**t-funds distanced itself from hyips, they tried to pass as an INVESTMENT company, they even handed out brochures and told you where they invested and short traded etc.....they have really ran their scam like true professionals, now it is very easy to spot a ponzi from a true investment firm.  Investment firms don't allow ANONYMOUS accounts and use of payment processors (alertpay, libertyreserve, etc.) and they don't pay you ref commission, and certainly not 5-6% that were offering some of these sites.

Stay away from *ALL* HYIPs!!! They are ALL bullshit scams.

With PTCs, some ptcs like neobux, it can be considered very low to no risk, because you don't have to invest in it.  You can build your money SLOWLY, by direct referrals and your own clicks, like many members do (you can thank the ultimate investors and purchasers) for that  big grin

So it all comes down to always considering your online earnings as SUPPLEMENT to your income and not earning your living.   You are not going to earn a living off of ponzi schemes and scams unles you are a professional, dangerous ponzi rider, but even so, more and more admisn are getting smart and defeating those "ponzi" riders who think getting in early is a winner.  How can that be now when more than ever admins SCAM you the very first scycle before you even get to withdraw the f***ing first cycle..........

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